Curse

Captain Roberts · Oct 09, 2011, 06:21 AM // 06:21

I've been playing Fort Aspenwood a lot lately, and I recently started bonding the gatekeepers on the kurzick side. People keep reporting me for "not playing" and "leeching" when actually, I make it near impossible for the luxons to get through the gates. At the very least, I slow them down a lot. And the point of the kurzick side is to survive until the end. So, my question is. What do I do about this? Is there a way I can counter-report for the misuse of the /report system?

Mental Recourses · Oct 09, 2011, 07:41 AM // 07:41

Unfortunately there isn't. The best thing to probably do is just inform the team when you start the game, that way they are aware of it. Most people report others because lately, as far as I have seen anyways, there has been quite a bit of botters and leechers.

cormac ap dunn · Oct 09, 2011, 11:36 AM // 11:36

Just another thought, an occasional "ping" of what you are maintaining can make a big difference to those playing with you. And as great as bonding an NPC may seem, do remember, a few proactive skills on your bar are always appreciated by your teammates. Otherwise they may feel that their hard work is a little bit more useful then yours which, in all honesty mostly consists of standing still, and is only needed when the Lux are far enough into the base.

akelarumi · Oct 09, 2011, 05:31 PM // 17:31

stating that people are misusing the report function is where you are wrong imo, When people would be misusing the system, it would mean they would be reportable and even banable (off course, after repeating it over and over). But I doubt people are aware of what you are doing. Remember you are in a team, randomly selected, but a team. When you are standing still and not doing a thing people will think your are leeching. So let your teammates know what you are doing, and to some extend that you are still doing it. Like pinging your skills/bonds from time to time and explaining during the first countdown (in teamchat!) that you are going to bond the gate npc's.

Try look at the situation form the other persons point of view. I myself have played FA Kurzick site a lot as a sin. So I start by capping shrines and running amber and continue that unless help is needed in defending. If i pass that gate 6 times, and 6 times I see you not doing anything the only conclusion I can draw is that you are not active and so leeching.

Bottomline, your in a team, so communicate with them and things will be fine.

Reverend Dr · Oct 10, 2011, 10:31 PM // 22:31

This isn't a problem, its a feature!

This is what happens when you put accusation and judge in the hands of the same people and is only one such instance of the /report feature being an irredeemable load of garbage.

Captain Roberts · Oct 11, 2011, 06:55 AM // 06:55

You all make a good point, however. My teamates were fully aware of what I was doing. There was a rather large in game argument about the situation. This dervish was getting mad at me for not healing him, the only thing I could do was put a bond on him. Which I did and then ran back to safety. Just outside the battle. When the luxons made it to the green gate some one left the gate open and they rushed in to kill me, then they were able to kill the elementalist at the green gate.

The dervish made a big deal of the situation and reported me for leaching. And, he reported another monk as well. So this is, in fact. A misuse of the system.

zacharias · Oct 11, 2011, 07:35 AM // 07:35

I agree with you, that is just an abuse of the system. It always drives me nuts when someone is screaming for healing in FA on the Kurzick side. They may just be new and don't understand that the monk's job is to heal, prot, and bond the NPCs and healing other players is the lowest priority.

Captain Roberts · Oct 11, 2011, 10:54 PM // 22:54

Exactly! Players can respawn every 5 seconds or whatever. The npcs don't respawn. The ones at the front gates can, if you get more amber. That's IF. The green gate has very little chance of respawn unless some one is waiting with amber. These players freak out if I don't heal them. I don't understand it.

At the begining of every game it says if you abuse the report feature you will be banned. I have a feeling that's a lot of talk, and they will never ban some one for it.

Scar of the Lotus · Oct 12, 2011, 12:23 AM // 00:23

If you were not leeching, and assisting the team in some way, you have nothing to worry about, if you were reported for something you didnt do.

icedwhitemocha · Oct 12, 2011, 01:28 AM // 01:28

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Originally Posted by Captain Roberts

At the begining of every game it says if you abuse the report feature you will be banned. I have a feeling that's a lot of talk, and they will never ban some one for it.

I've gotten two 72hr bans for rage-reporting morons on my team for being morons. I think you have to open a support ticket to get the reporter banned, though, and most people don't bother -- unless you get enough dishonor points to get hexed, the only consequence of getting reported is your name popping up in local.

ruksak · Dec 01, 2011, 02:40 PM // 14:40

The worst abuse I've noticed about the /report function is that people don't use it as much as they should. I report when they quit early and just stand there waiting for 3-5 minutes until it's official. If you want to be a dishonorable quitter, then leave.

It's a game, it's supposed to be fun. Am I the only one that thinks it's fun sometimes to get your ass whipped by a top-shelf player? So what if you lose.

To the OP, yes, give them a heads up. I know it's futile trying to strategize with PUGS, but at least most of them will get it. They give you over a half-minute to discuss a strategy, but all anyone says is "OMFG BOTS".

makosi · Dec 01, 2011, 04:12 PM // 16:12

If you want to bond NPCs at inner/outer gates to stall Luxon progress then you're actively engaging in battle and contributing to your team's efforts.

If you start the match by bonding Gatekeepers and camping there from the outset then you are not participating and, therefore, effectively leeching. It's rare for Luxons to get past the green gate before the 50% mark unless the Kurzick side has a lot of leechers, leavers and/or bots.

makosi · Dec 03, 2011, 11:05 AM // 11:05

I hate the /report feature for so many reasons.

1) It delegates the GM's job to players,
2) It punishes those who use it properly if they happen to be the only ones to use it as intended,
3) It doesn't punish genuine abusers adequately,
4) The 'Verbal Abuse' function is barely useful since it's usually the abuse victim's own fault for not having the chat filter on,
5) Nobody checks /bot reports,
6) NCSoft are terrible, terrible workers who are so hesistant and reluctant to get their finger out,
7) It's lazy and entirely symptomatic and doesn't address fundamental issues.
8) Doesn't compensate the rest of the team who were disadvantaged by the leeching/leaving,
9) Requires 4 reports to drain faction gained for that particular map,
10) Requires the reporter to be in the same instance as the person being reported - what a dumb idea...

Intrinsic · Dec 03, 2011, 12:56 PM // 12:56

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Originally Posted by makosi

2) It punishes those who use it properly if they happen to be the only ones to use it as intended,
3) It doesn't punish genuine abusers adequately,

This. I know botters/leechers in game that have been active for the last year, reported every time i see them botting/leeching in FA and they flaunt their kurzick title(1 i see often that is over rank 11 kurz) that they did nothing to obtain. Nothing happens to them, certain HzH owning guilds(in that alliance) run their bots because they know nothing will happen to them. Plus they profit from the zkey sales.